Tag Archive: Sonar

(Partially solved: Clone error still lingers)

While working on a mastering session I noticed I was no longer getting bit for bit transparency. I tracked the problem down to the track mute & clone function. Long story short the mute buttons & cloning tracks can break bit transparency.
To demonstrate the plugin clone issue. Clone a single track with the LP64 multi-band & try to phase cancel with the original.
Clone it twice & the two clones will 100% cancel, but not with the original.

Update:
I’ve figured out the root of the mute issue.
Sonar generates DC or noise bits on silence/lack of content by default. And well mute creates silence.

This INI variable can have the following values:
0 – Fill silent buffers with zeroes, i.e., no denormal prevention.

1 – Fill silent buffers with positive valued low-gain DC

2 – Fill silent buffers with alternating positive and negative valued low-gain DC. The value flips sign on each audio streaming buffer.

3 – Fill silent buffers with alternating positive and negative valued low-gain DC. The value flips sign on each sample.

4 – Fill silent buffers with low-gain noise.

The gain in options 1-4 is determined by ZeroFillDB. We chose 2 as the default because in our testing it reduced denormal problems with the largest number of plugins.

Workaround/Fix
Sending a 64 bit silent dummy clip to all created buses will clear the stuck bit errors. Loop this provided clip across the duration of your project.

silent dummy clip.wav

Not a very exciting video I have to say, but this should give some a better idea of the difference between floating point & integer headroom. Well at least show the advantage not being able to clip the audio while ITB. FYI – yes the video is silent. (For your listening pleasure)

Sonar 32/64 icons

For those that run both the 32 & 64bit versions of Sonar, you might find these helpful.

Video displaying how to setup multiple device i/o offsets in Sonar. A problem many don’t know they have.

Ever wonder why the timing of what you record sounds so off? Well you might just be that off, or you might need to figure out your interface offset. I have yet to see an interface without the need for manual compensation.  A/D D/A’s, drivers, & software all contributed to this unavoidable problem.

Timing .wav file – Download

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Video displaying how to setup a phase cancellation test in Sonar.

Sonar Null – Video – null.wmv

This is a much easier way to explain the issue.

Copy Bug WMV VIDEO CLIP

A little help for the guys @ Original Thread Link