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		<title>A/D D/A Technical Analysis @ different Samplerates. (&amp; other gear)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rhythminmind</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Audio Interface/Gear comparison. So i wanted to know exactly what my A/D D/A, interfaces, console, &#38; other gear were actually doing to my audio. I wanted to know how differently my interfaces performed @ different samplerates. I also wanted to see how my analog console/bus comp effected response as well. Using RightMark Audio Analyzer 6.2.1 [...]]]></description>
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<div class="smallfont"><strong>Audio Interface/Gear comparison.</strong></div>
<hr style="color: #666666; background-color: #666666;" size="1" />So i wanted to know exactly what my A/D D/A, interfaces, console, &amp; other gear were actually doing to my audio.<br />
I wanted to know how differently my interfaces performed @ different samplerates. I also wanted to see how my analog console/bus comp effected response as well.<br />
Using RightMark Audio Analyzer 6.2.1 PRO I ran calibrated loopback tests.<br />
Some of you might find the results interesting.</p>
<p>If others would like to analyze any of there gear, Download these files. Use the tone to calibrate i/o levels. Create a loopback recording thru the gear &amp; send me the recorded file. I&#8217;ll post the results.</p>
<p><strong>Test Files</strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Test%20signal%20%2844%20kHz%2024-bit%29.wav" target="_blank">Test signal (44 kHz 24-bit).wav</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Test%20signal%20%2848%20kHz%2024-bit%29.wav" target="_blank">Test signal (48 kHz 24-bit).wav</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Test%20signal%20%2896%20kHz%2024-bit%29.wav" target="_blank">Test signal (96 kHz 24-bit).wav</a><br />
<strong><strong><strong><strong><strong><strong><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/files/16BIT48KHZ1KSINEWAVE.wav" target="_blank">16BIT48KHZ1KSINEWAVE.wav</a> </strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></p>
<p>Edit: Updated 1-20-09<br />
<strong>Results</strong> &#8211; Click links for full Comparisons</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="192 @ 96" src="http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/digi19296/DigiDesign%20192/fr.png" alt="" width="504" height="319" /></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/digi192441/DigiDesign%20192.htm" target="_blank">DigiDesign 192 @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/digi19248/DigiDisign%20192.htm" target="_blank">DigiDesign 192 @ 48000</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/digi19296/DigiDesign%20192.htm" target="_blank">DigiDesign 192 @96000</a></strong><br />
Have to say the Stock 192&#8242;s perform pretty well.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/DigiDesign%2088824441/DigiDesign%20888_24.htm" target="_blank">DigiDesign 888/24 @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/DigiDesign%208882448/DigiDesign%20888_24.htm" target="_blank">DigiDesign 888/24 @ 48000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Lynx%20Aurora%208%20441/Lynx%20Aurora%208.htm" target="_blank">Lynx Aurora 8 @ 44100</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Lynx%20Aurora%208%2048/Lynx%20Aurora%208.htm" target="_blank">Lynx Aurora 8 @ 48000</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Lynx%20Aurora%208%2096/Lynx%20Aurora%208.htm" target="_blank">Lynx Aurora 8 @ 96000</a></strong></p>
<p>Performed great.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22/Lynx%20L22%20441.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22/Lynx%20L22%2048.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 @ 48000</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22/Lynx%20L22%2096.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 @ 96000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22-TC-96k/Comparison.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 vs TC Konnekt 24d @ 96k</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22-TC-888-48k/Comparison.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 vs TCk24d vs Digidesign 888/24 @ 48k</a></strong><br />
Surprising how good the 888 D/A actually is. After more testing It&#8217;s the A/D thats crap not the D/A.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/L22-TC-Mbox-441/Comparison.htm" target="_blank">Lynx L22 vs TCk24d vs MBox @ 44100</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496.htm" target="_blank">M-Audio Audiophile 2496 @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496%2048.htm" target="_blank">M-Audio Audiophile 2496 @ 48000</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496/M-Audio%20Audiophile%202496%2096.htm" target="_blank">M-Audio Audiophile 2496 @ 96000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/delta1010/M-Audio%20Delta%201010%207_8-96knomod.htm"><strong>M-Audio Delta 1010 @ 96k</strong><br />
</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/MH/Metric%20Halo%20Mobile%20I_O%202882%20with%202D%20441.htm" target="_blank">Metric Halo Mobile I/O 2882 with 2D @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/MH/Metric%20Halo%20Mobile%20I_O%202882%20with%202D%2048000.htm" target="_blank">Metric Halo Mobile I/O 2882 with 2D @ 48000</a><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/MH/Metric%20Halo%20Mobile%20I_O%202882%20with%202D%2096000.htm" target="_blank"><br />
</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/AMS-Neve%20MIOS/AMS-Neve%20MIOS.htm" target="_blank">AMS-Neve MIOS @ 48000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/tck24d/TC%20Konnekt24D%20441k.htm"> TC Konnekt24D @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/tck24d/TC%20Konnekt24D%2048k.htm"> TC Konnekt24D @ 48000</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/tck24d/TC%20Konnekt24D%2096k.htm"> TC Konnekt24D @ 96000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/TCS48/441.htm"> TC Studio Konnekt 48 @ 44100</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/TCS48/48.htm"> TC Studio Konnekt 48 @ 48000</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/TCS48/96.htm"> TC Studio Konnekt 48 @ 96000</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Layla3G_RMAA/Layla3G%203-4%20Out%201-2In%20No%20Pre.htm"> <strong>Layla3G 3-4 Out 1-2In No Pre.htm</strong></a> <strong><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Layla3G_RMAA/Layla3G%2034IO%202444.htm"> Layla3G 34IO 2444.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Layla3G_RMAA/Layla3G%2034IO%202448.htm"> Layla3G 34IO 2448.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Layla3G_RMAA/Layla3G%2034IO%202496.htm"> Layla3G 34IO 2496.htm</a><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/Layla3G_RMAA/Layla3G%2034IO%203244.htm"> Layla3G 34IO 3244.htm</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Stuff/interface-test/analog/Comparison.htm" target="_blank">Analog Gear in question = MXP-390 console, 390 with DomII bus comp, &amp; the RNLA</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Benefits of higher samplerates.</title>
		<link>http://www.rhythminmind.net/presetblog/2008/10/benefits-of-higher-samplerates/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rhythminmind</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Analysis]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me bring up some technical facts of what actually happens @ different samplerate / Bit depths. There really isn&#8217;t any voodoo involved. You have to break it down into stages. Part One. SampleRate in regards to your hardware(Your A/D D/A&#8217;s) The available digital frequency response = 1/2 the sample rate. So keep this chart [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me bring up some technical facts of what actually happens @ different samplerate / Bit depths. There really isn&#8217;t any voodoo involved.<br />
You have to break it down into stages.<br />
<strong><br />
Part One.</strong><br />
<strong>SampleRate in regards to your hardware(Your A/D D/A&#8217;s)</strong><br />
The available digital frequency response = 1/2 the sample rate.<br />
So keep this chart in mind<br />
44,100hz = 22.050hz<br />
48,000hz = 24,000hz<br />
88,200hz = 44,100hz<br />
96,000hz = 48,000hz</p>
<p>Now lets say we want to have <strong>clean 20-20,000hz</strong> recording capabilities. This is what most A/D D/A&#8217;s strive for.<br />
All A/D&#8217;s use filters on there inputs.<br />
If you are recording @ 44,100hz and are trying to get a clean 20-20,000hz the filter only has 2.05k of bandwidth to do the cutoff. This is <strong>extremely tight</strong> &amp; near imposable to do transparently. Most A/D&#8217;s will cut into the audible realm @ 44,100.</p>
<p>Changing to a higher samplerate allows the A/D D/A&#8217;s filter to have a more graceful cutoff slope &amp; get out of the audible range.<br />
44.1k gives the filter 2.05k of bandwidth<br />
48k gives the filter 4k of bandwidth<br />
88.2k gives the filter 24,100k of bandwidth<br />
96k gives the filter 28,000k of bandwidth</p>
<p>This is the main reason to record with higher rates @ the hardware level.</p>
<p><strong>Part Two<br />
SampleRate in regards to processing DSP/Plugins<br />
</strong></p>
<p>With added frequency bandwidth you get a few benefits. More natural EQ/filter slopes, less audible aliasing/distortion.</p>
<p>EQ Example<br />
filter slopes extend out based on the Q&amp;gain setting. If you boost the high end @ 44,100 the slope can slam into the 22.050hz limit &amp; not be able to extend out into it&#8217;s desired range. = harsh slope. With higher rates filter slopes can extend naturally<br />
Here are some charts of pink noise being played thru an digital EQ with a 16k boost @ 48K &amp; 96K with the exact same settings.</p>
<p>48k=</p>
<p><img src="http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Pics/48k.png" alt="" width="500" height="269" /></p>
<p>96k =</p>
<p><img src="http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/Random%20Pics/96k.png" alt="" width="500" height="269" /></p>
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