I have processed some drum noodling with 3 highend hardware reverbs & 3 algorithm based plugin verbs. Are you able to tell the hardware from the plugin? In each section three examples are processed with hardware, three are processed with plugins.
Hardware = Lexicon m300, Lexicon PCM 70, & TC M5000
Plugins = CSR , Sonitus Reverb, & Fabrik R Studio
Hall Presets
- verb test, 1a (5410)
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- verb test, 2a (5411)
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- verb test, 3a (5412)
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- verb test, 4a (5413)
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- verb test, 5a (5414)
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- verb test, 6a (5415)
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Room Presets
- verb test, 1b (5416)
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- verb test, 2b (5417)
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- verb test, 3b (5418)
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- verb test, 4b (5419)
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- verb test, 5b (5420)
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- verb test, 6b (5421)
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actually harder than I thought!
I have had to listen to them several times…
Ok I think 2, 3 and 4 are the hardware reverbs.
I think 1 is the Fabrik R which is to be fair a hardware quality plugin.
5 and 6 sound like plugin reverbs to me – not sure but prob 5 is CSR.
Thinking perhaps 2 is the TC-brighter and more transparent…
3 is the PCM 70 and 4 is the M300
not good test, actually
you should test all this reverb stuff IN THE MIX.
all these tests with simple drumloop + verb is useless and do not work in REAL situation at all!
for example, modulated reverb tail cuts better thru the mix. but in your test it can be not transparent.
just my 0.2c
update: my friend was made the similar test as you. he tweak a cheap “synthedit” reverb like tc 6000. but it is useless in the real mixing situation.
This is just all in good fun/curiosity. Nothing more..
Im wondering what the answers are…
1=m300
2=m5000
3=pcm70
4=Fabrik R
5=csr
6=sontius
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Great. Almost got them correct. Mixed up the Fabrik R with Lex 300. Different reverbs but both quality. Its the Rooms that really give it away. They are the real test for a reverb it seems. Lower quality small reverbs just sound awful.
m300 sounds the best. Give us some IRs for that??
All ready have. Theres a reason it was the 1st box I captured. http://www.rhythminmind.net/presetblog/2008/12/lexicon-300-impulse-sets/
as always the hardware reverbs sounds much wider and more 3D.
if you switch from one sample to the other you clearly can hear an increase or decrease in the stereo field.
more stereo=hardware
pretty easy test
300L clearly is king of the hill.
and i dont really like the pcm70 i think.
cheers
People love or hate the 70. It’s one of the more unique. I love & hate it depending on the application.
I bet Andi Vax’s 2 cents are stolen, just like the pics of the mastering suite that used to be on his website that he lied perpetually about not doing. Even tried passing the blame to his web designer.
i already ask on this “stolen web pics” quesion. please read gearslutz topic carefully.
i would sell my b&w for a room that acoustically treated as andy who’s!
rhythminmind, do you have redline reverb, artsacoustic and aether for similar tests?